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		<title>Comment on Its the Quality Not the Quantity Stupid! by L Kidder</title>
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		<dc:creator>L Kidder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We think alike.  I wrote this back in 2008

Sufficiency Capitalism TM - The People&#039;s New World Order
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/13/629531/-Sufficiency-Capitalism-TM-The-People-s-New-World-Order

IT IS HOW I RAN MY BUSINESSES before retiring.

INTRODUCTION

They laughed at the Wright Brothers, too. 

In our new world, where physicists are hired to create Wall Street trading models, where lightly collateralized day traders are allowed to buy huge volumes of equity on a promise, and the internet enables loan officers to scoop as many debtors as time allows and then make small commissions on volume when they whisk their debtor bundles directly into Wall Street’s designer hedge funds, the jaundiced eyes of so-called economists will laugh and jeer at the simplicity and seeming altruism of Sufficiency Capitalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We think alike.  I wrote this back in 2008</p>
<p>Sufficiency Capitalism TM &#8211; The People&#8217;s New World Order<br />
<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/13/629531/-Sufficiency-Capitalism-TM-The-People-s-New-World-Order" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/13/629531/-Sufficiency-Capitalism-TM-The-People-s-New-World-Order</a></p>
<p>IT IS HOW I RAN MY BUSINESSES before retiring.</p>
<p>INTRODUCTION</p>
<p>They laughed at the Wright Brothers, too. </p>
<p>In our new world, where physicists are hired to create Wall Street trading models, where lightly collateralized day traders are allowed to buy huge volumes of equity on a promise, and the internet enables loan officers to scoop as many debtors as time allows and then make small commissions on volume when they whisk their debtor bundles directly into Wall Street’s designer hedge funds, the jaundiced eyes of so-called economists will laugh and jeer at the simplicity and seeming altruism of Sufficiency Capitalism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Its the Quality Not the Quantity Stupid! by Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.sufficiencyeconomics.ca/2012/02/03/its-the-quality-not-the-quantity-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-1021</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting paradigm discussion. When people changed the discussion from food is scarce to food is plentiful and can be moved - world hunger began to diminish through the Hunger Project and many more like it..

Calling things the War on Drugs and Ware on Poverty, etc. has only served to increase these things.

Paradigms are powerful things.

I&#039;ve always gravitated back to &quot;Abundance is not about how much you have It’s about how little you need&quot; - it always reminds me that abundance or sufficiency is a perception and perceptions are reality for the person how has them.

We have friends who are billionaires and sometimes I think that is mostly because their sense of sufficiency has always been out of whack and they could never experience sufficiency in anything they did - and many of these folks will break all the rules to get more money and yet have a deep-seated belief that if the worst thing happens, it won&#039;t be enough. Many have come to believe that they themselves will be fine but it won&#039;t be enough to sustain their family, and their children and grandchildren.

In a rare interview, Einstein stated that he thought one of the most important questions was, &quot;Is it safe?&quot; because if people perceived that their safety was threatened then they would fortify the doors and windows and spend every dollar on keeping themselves and their family safe. But if it is in fact &quot;safe&quot; then we will pursue things further up on Maslow&#039;s hierarchy, self-actualize, help others, live a life of service, and not spend a second looking over our shoulders.

So the question on this blog is &quot;is it enough?&quot;

We love a simulation called &quot;Win as Much as You Can&quot; because in that simulation groups are tested to see what their definition of winning really is and how far that definition extends - me myself, the group, all the groups, the world? of course its not often that people will define &quot;winning&quot; as beyond their own skin - and the enlightened person might define it as their immediate group - but it takes a paradigm shift to change that reality.

So the question on this blog could be &quot;Is it enough for all of us?&quot;

Sufficiency is the condition where everyone on the planet perceives that they need nothing.

Buddha taught that desire is the enemy of the people. Desire stirs wanting and leads to a perception of insufficiency.

So in Buddha&#039;s world, wanting is the culprit - in the absence of wanting, sufficiency can exist.

If we follow the lead of the &quot;hunger project&quot; and avoid the examples of &quot;war on....&quot; then our job is to demonstrate through facts that THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH - more than enough food, more than enough shelter, more than enough oil, more than enough of everything that we could reasonably need to be happy. We must convince ourselves through facts that we believe are reliable that there is more than enough. And then enlist others in a national network like the &quot;hunger project&quot; that presents the case that there is more than enough.

Does that mean that we&#039;re saying the homeless are OK? No. We&#039;re just saying that there is more than enough if everyone cooperates to go around. There are sufficient resources, sufficient food, sufficient houses, sufficient money - to go around. In the hunger project, once a sufficient &quot;critical mass&quot; believed this to be true, food started to move around the world from places where it wasn&#039;t needed to places where it was.

Thanks to John was being the visionary that recognizes the need for a new paradigm. A way of looking at things that creates a new possibility. What a contribution that is in today&#039;s world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting paradigm discussion. When people changed the discussion from food is scarce to food is plentiful and can be moved &#8211; world hunger began to diminish through the Hunger Project and many more like it..</p>
<p>Calling things the War on Drugs and Ware on Poverty, etc. has only served to increase these things.</p>
<p>Paradigms are powerful things.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always gravitated back to &#8220;Abundance is not about how much you have It’s about how little you need&#8221; &#8211; it always reminds me that abundance or sufficiency is a perception and perceptions are reality for the person how has them.</p>
<p>We have friends who are billionaires and sometimes I think that is mostly because their sense of sufficiency has always been out of whack and they could never experience sufficiency in anything they did &#8211; and many of these folks will break all the rules to get more money and yet have a deep-seated belief that if the worst thing happens, it won&#8217;t be enough. Many have come to believe that they themselves will be fine but it won&#8217;t be enough to sustain their family, and their children and grandchildren.</p>
<p>In a rare interview, Einstein stated that he thought one of the most important questions was, &#8220;Is it safe?&#8221; because if people perceived that their safety was threatened then they would fortify the doors and windows and spend every dollar on keeping themselves and their family safe. But if it is in fact &#8220;safe&#8221; then we will pursue things further up on Maslow&#8217;s hierarchy, self-actualize, help others, live a life of service, and not spend a second looking over our shoulders.</p>
<p>So the question on this blog is &#8220;is it enough?&#8221;</p>
<p>We love a simulation called &#8220;Win as Much as You Can&#8221; because in that simulation groups are tested to see what their definition of winning really is and how far that definition extends &#8211; me myself, the group, all the groups, the world? of course its not often that people will define &#8220;winning&#8221; as beyond their own skin &#8211; and the enlightened person might define it as their immediate group &#8211; but it takes a paradigm shift to change that reality.</p>
<p>So the question on this blog could be &#8220;Is it enough for all of us?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sufficiency is the condition where everyone on the planet perceives that they need nothing.</p>
<p>Buddha taught that desire is the enemy of the people. Desire stirs wanting and leads to a perception of insufficiency.</p>
<p>So in Buddha&#8217;s world, wanting is the culprit &#8211; in the absence of wanting, sufficiency can exist.</p>
<p>If we follow the lead of the &#8220;hunger project&#8221; and avoid the examples of &#8220;war on&#8230;.&#8221; then our job is to demonstrate through facts that THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH &#8211; more than enough food, more than enough shelter, more than enough oil, more than enough of everything that we could reasonably need to be happy. We must convince ourselves through facts that we believe are reliable that there is more than enough. And then enlist others in a national network like the &#8220;hunger project&#8221; that presents the case that there is more than enough.</p>
<p>Does that mean that we&#8217;re saying the homeless are OK? No. We&#8217;re just saying that there is more than enough if everyone cooperates to go around. There are sufficient resources, sufficient food, sufficient houses, sufficient money &#8211; to go around. In the hunger project, once a sufficient &#8220;critical mass&#8221; believed this to be true, food started to move around the world from places where it wasn&#8217;t needed to places where it was.</p>
<p>Thanks to John was being the visionary that recognizes the need for a new paradigm. A way of looking at things that creates a new possibility. What a contribution that is in today&#8217;s world!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Its the Quality Not the Quantity Stupid! by Judy</title>
		<link>http://www.sufficiencyeconomics.ca/2012/02/03/its-the-quality-not-the-quantity-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-1020</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shifting the focus really would be something. Totally agree with you John!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shifting the focus really would be something. Totally agree with you John!!!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sufficiency and Healthcare by John Lerner</title>
		<link>http://www.sufficiencyeconomics.ca/2011/05/15/sufficiency-and-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-1007</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lerner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 17:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul, thanks for the reference.  I don&#039;t mind the commercial at all.  The Wonders are the inspiration for this site. I like the idea of guidance in the sense that gov&#039;t or society offers our citizens a range of choices to choose from or principles to explore.  I also like the idea of voucher or a healthcare account that would allow us to spend our healthcare dollars on what we see fit.  The question arises, however, what is a fair amount of funds to give people?  What about people with chronic diseases or debilitating diseases, how do you set a fund level for them?  What if they run out of funds, do you let them go without care?  Similarly, what about a person who burns through their money on some quackery, do you leave them without care as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul, thanks for the reference.  I don&#8217;t mind the commercial at all.  The Wonders are the inspiration for this site. I like the idea of guidance in the sense that gov&#8217;t or society offers our citizens a range of choices to choose from or principles to explore.  I also like the idea of voucher or a healthcare account that would allow us to spend our healthcare dollars on what we see fit.  The question arises, however, what is a fair amount of funds to give people?  What about people with chronic diseases or debilitating diseases, how do you set a fund level for them?  What if they run out of funds, do you let them go without care?  Similarly, what about a person who burns through their money on some quackery, do you leave them without care as well?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sufficiency and Happiness by Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.sufficiencyeconomics.ca/2010/07/18/happiness/comment-page-1/#comment-1006</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 16:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Joan. Our senses are the door way to experience.  Observing the world with these senses without judgement is perhaps the surest way to appreciation, happiness and abundance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Joan. Our senses are the door way to experience.  Observing the world with these senses without judgement is perhaps the surest way to appreciation, happiness and abundance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sufficiency and Healthcare by Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.sufficiencyeconomics.ca/2011/05/15/sufficiency-and-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-1005</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 16:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, personal responsibility is the first place to start and ultimately where we end up but if we are going to move healthcare policy towards personal empowerment, perhaps we need to start talking to each other and to our policy makers with this objective in mind.  Currently, most of the discussion is about disease management and what the system can do for me.   Perhaps the conversation should start with &quot;how can I stay healthy&quot; and if I get sick, how can I be empowered to make the best choices for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, personal responsibility is the first place to start and ultimately where we end up but if we are going to move healthcare policy towards personal empowerment, perhaps we need to start talking to each other and to our policy makers with this objective in mind.  Currently, most of the discussion is about disease management and what the system can do for me.   Perhaps the conversation should start with &#8220;how can I stay healthy&#8221; and if I get sick, how can I be empowered to make the best choices for me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sufficiency Democracy by JM</title>
		<link>http://www.sufficiencyeconomics.ca/2011/03/02/sufficiency-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 01:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The democracy mentioned might really not be a democracy.  There is no end of a person discovering themselves on earth; full doesn&#039;t happen - stopping self happens, but then again self doesn&#039;t really stop, it gets deferred to something else. Because humans are social beasts, there will always be a desire to mingle with others.  How about encouraging others to take personal responsibility and help them to discover the life they want to have while alive on this planet? Maybe we arrived with a &#039;God portion&#039; and we put that passion into action too.  Each will find their own; perhaps God gave them that portion and the bidding in not in our hands. Pay attention to the clues and enjoy the journey. Everyone is entitled to their journey, but if asked, we can help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The democracy mentioned might really not be a democracy.  There is no end of a person discovering themselves on earth; full doesn&#8217;t happen &#8211; stopping self happens, but then again self doesn&#8217;t really stop, it gets deferred to something else. Because humans are social beasts, there will always be a desire to mingle with others.  How about encouraging others to take personal responsibility and help them to discover the life they want to have while alive on this planet? Maybe we arrived with a &#8216;God portion&#8217; and we put that passion into action too.  Each will find their own; perhaps God gave them that portion and the bidding in not in our hands. Pay attention to the clues and enjoy the journey. Everyone is entitled to their journey, but if asked, we can help.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sufficiency and Happiness by JM</title>
		<link>http://www.sufficiencyeconomics.ca/2010/07/18/happiness/comment-page-1/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 01:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clues for where the passion or happiness come in life is our senses; pay attention to what you see, what you hear, what you touch, what you say, what you smell and what touched you....could be more.  These signals bring us to our own personal joy.  The outside world offers any numbers of ways to bring one to this...or forget what is offered you and wander with your senses and find what comes to you; this is your personal experience and each of us has our own.  The buffet of opportunities is out there, but they are offered to you - you didn&#039;t find them on your own.  Make your happiness your journey through your senses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clues for where the passion or happiness come in life is our senses; pay attention to what you see, what you hear, what you touch, what you say, what you smell and what touched you&#8230;.could be more.  These signals bring us to our own personal joy.  The outside world offers any numbers of ways to bring one to this&#8230;or forget what is offered you and wander with your senses and find what comes to you; this is your personal experience and each of us has our own.  The buffet of opportunities is out there, but they are offered to you &#8211; you didn&#8217;t find them on your own.  Make your happiness your journey through your senses.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sufficiency and Healthcare by JM</title>
		<link>http://www.sufficiencyeconomics.ca/2011/05/15/sufficiency-and-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-1002</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 01:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waiting for the outside world to develop a process of healthcare is a long wait....how about taking personal responsibility for caring for one&#039;s own health? Learning about the body and keeping it strong, learning about nutrients that maintain that strength and developing a life plan which follows one&#039;s passion would be a worthwhile endeavour.  The more we learn about ourselves provides shorten waiting lines for help - knowing what you need is a good thing.  I want to know what one has done for themselves before they get a dose of care.  This is not &#039;care less&#039;; it is &#039;care full.  Everyone should get attended to but first - tend to self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waiting for the outside world to develop a process of healthcare is a long wait&#8230;.how about taking personal responsibility for caring for one&#8217;s own health? Learning about the body and keeping it strong, learning about nutrients that maintain that strength and developing a life plan which follows one&#8217;s passion would be a worthwhile endeavour.  The more we learn about ourselves provides shorten waiting lines for help &#8211; knowing what you need is a good thing.  I want to know what one has done for themselves before they get a dose of care.  This is not &#8216;care less&#8217;; it is &#8216;care full.  Everyone should get attended to but first &#8211; tend to self.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sufficiency and Healthcare by Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.sufficiencyeconomics.ca/2011/05/15/sufficiency-and-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-1001</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 22:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a recent workshop by The Wonders; their website is called www.thewonders.com entitled Changing the world now. The main conclusions of the discussion were that the present system is not really sustainable and is leading to contraction in society; an alternative system to the present system of governance is a system guidance. 
What is needed to get to a system of guidance is for people to realise that they have given away their power to the government and they don’t really need countless rules and regulations and an organisation to look after all of their needs.  
The process would be quite slow because for real change people would have to hear about the concept and see an advantage in changing. It would not be a revolution more a case of politicians changing their policies to appeal to the changing aspirations and desires of the voters.
The relevance of all this to the medical system is that people now see the medical system as a crisis management system and wait for a major problem to occur and then require a quick fix rather than an alternative of being self responsible and choosing to eat healthy food and live a healthy lifestyle.
One alternative healthcare system that was proposed was that each person was given a limited grant for medical expenses to last their whole life. This might focus people’s awareness that their choices can have an impact on their health.
This is only a fraction of the material covered 
The recordings are going to be available in the next month or two for sale at 
http://secure.cancart.net/thewonders.com/home.php
Or excerpts will be free at http://www.youtube.com/user/ChooseFreelyTV
I hope you will excuse me for mentioning someone’s commercial product here I do not get any commission from the sales I just think what was discussed was very relevant to the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a recent workshop by The Wonders; their website is called <a href="http://www.thewonders.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thewonders.com</a> entitled Changing the world now. The main conclusions of the discussion were that the present system is not really sustainable and is leading to contraction in society; an alternative system to the present system of governance is a system guidance.<br />
What is needed to get to a system of guidance is for people to realise that they have given away their power to the government and they don’t really need countless rules and regulations and an organisation to look after all of their needs.<br />
The process would be quite slow because for real change people would have to hear about the concept and see an advantage in changing. It would not be a revolution more a case of politicians changing their policies to appeal to the changing aspirations and desires of the voters.<br />
The relevance of all this to the medical system is that people now see the medical system as a crisis management system and wait for a major problem to occur and then require a quick fix rather than an alternative of being self responsible and choosing to eat healthy food and live a healthy lifestyle.<br />
One alternative healthcare system that was proposed was that each person was given a limited grant for medical expenses to last their whole life. This might focus people’s awareness that their choices can have an impact on their health.<br />
This is only a fraction of the material covered<br />
The recordings are going to be available in the next month or two for sale at<br />
<a href="http://secure.cancart.net/thewonders.com/home.php" rel="nofollow">http://secure.cancart.net/thewonders.com/home.php</a><br />
Or excerpts will be free at <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/ChooseFreelyTV" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/ChooseFreelyTV</a><br />
I hope you will excuse me for mentioning someone’s commercial product here I do not get any commission from the sales I just think what was discussed was very relevant to the subject.</p>
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